The early hours of Where Winds Meet teach a harsh lesson: Jianghu is full of people who will happily take your money and walk away smiling. One of the most memorable examples is the restaurant scammer in Kaifeng, who turns a simple meal into a debt trap. You cannot outplay her when you first meet her; the confrontation that actually matters comes later, when the story lets you expose her for what she is.
Where the scam starts and why you can’t win early
The scammer first appears in Kaifeng as part of a staged “you pay for the table” setup. You sit down for food and drink, and the bill suddenly becomes your responsibility. At this point she is scripted to come out ahead. Whether you argue, accept it, or try to play along, there is no permanent way to beat her in this first encounter.
Several players bump into similar situations with “Gift of Gab” encounters elsewhere — like the Celestial Ferry Crossing scammer during Blissful Retreat — and notice the same pattern: the numbers simply do not add up in your favor yet. That is intentional. The game treats these early scams as character beats and foreshadowing, not as solvable puzzles.
When you can finally expose the scammer
The restaurant scammer comes back during Chapter 2, in the main story sequence that leads you to the Reunion quest. The key trigger is reaching Granny Turtle’s house in Kaifeng. Once you progress the chapter far enough to arrive at her home, you will find the scammer there again, acting as if the meal incident never happened.
| Requirement | Detail |
|---|---|
| Main story chapter | Chapter 2: Universal Furnace |
| Quest | Reunion (sequence around Granny Turtle’s house) |
| Location | Kaifeng, outside Granny Turtle’s home |
| Scammer status | Now fully exposable; the outcome is recognized by the quest log |
There is no alternative trigger, side story, or optional objective needed: reaching that section of the main narrative is enough to set up the reveal. If you are still stuck with only the original restaurant scene, continue pushing the main storyline until you see the Reunion events unfold.

How to expose the scammer during Reunion
When the Reunion dialogue starts at Granny Turtle’s house, the game gives a choice: you can ignore the scammer or follow her outside. Exposure hinges on taking that opportunity.
| Step | Action | What to watch for |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Accept the prompt to follow her outside. | Do not back out or skip; leaving her alone delays the reveal. |
| 2 | Once you are outside, question her directly. | Choose dialogue options that challenge her story, not the ones that dismiss the incident. |
| 3 | Exhaust every accusing dialogue branch. | Keep selecting lines that reference the Kaifeng restaurant scam or demand an explanation. |
| 4 | Push until she admits the setup. | A short cutscene plays when she cracks and confesses. |
The game uses this extended back-and-forth to determine whether you truly “exposed” her. If you pivot to softer or unrelated lines too early, the scene moves on without the explicit confession. Keeping pressure on her version of events is what flips the internal flag that marks her as the architect of the scam.
One specific trap to avoid is any non-diegetic “proxy” or placeholder dialogue entry that behaves like a debug or skip line rather than actual conversation. Those options advance the scene but do not count as confronting her, so the scam remains unresolved in the log.
Using Wind Sense to confirm her involvement
Wind Sense quietly reinforces what the story is already pointing at. During the Reunion segment, activating Wind Sense near the scammer and other connected NPCs highlights subtle traces — objects, footprints, or residue of her movements. These visual hints underline that she has been orchestrating events around Granny Turtle’s house as surely as she did in the Kaifeng restaurant.
This does not replace the conversation; the confession still comes from dialogue choices. But Wind Sense provides early confirmation:
- Lingering clues near spots where she paused or dropped items.
- Subtle paths that tie her position back toward the earlier scam location.
After you confront her and she admits the setup, speaking to Big Zhao updates your records. The log reflects that her role in the scam has been uncovered, which is the game’s internal confirmation that you handled the encounter as intended.
What changes after you expose her
Once the scammer’s identity is officially exposed, the game stops using her as a threat and folds her into the ongoing narrative as a companion character. There is no option to imprison, kill, or otherwise remove her from play; the story leans into grudging cooperation rather than revenge.
| Outcome | Effect on your run |
|---|---|
| Confession logged | The quest log records the scam as resolved; the deception is no longer an open thread. |
| Future behavior | She offers to help with upcoming tasks and travels alongside you in later story beats. |
| Endings and major branches | No alternate ending paths are tied to this reveal; it mainly affects flavor dialogue. |
| Rewards | You do not get your earlier losses back; the payoff is narrative closure and additional ally interactions. |
The restaurant bill, any wine, and the discomfort of the original scam stay in the past. The point of exposing her is recognition and closure, not reimbursement. From this point on, her presence is about commentary, banter, and occasional assistance in quests rather than running more cons on you.
How this links to other “scam” encounters and Gift of Gab
The Kaifeng restaurant storyline sits alongside several other “you versus the con artist” moments in Where Winds Meet. Some are tied to the Gift of Gab debating minigame, such as the duel with He Wanchun in the “Gift of Gab: Silver Tongue” side story or the Celestial Ferry Crossing scammer encountered near the Blissful Retreat campaign.
These debating encounters share a few traits:
- They read like verbal boss fights, with Mental Focus acting as a second health bar.
- Damage values in early appearances are often weighted against you, making them feel unwinnable without later progression or better card tools.
- They frequently foreshadow later revenge or payoff rather than offering immediate victory.
The Kaifeng scammer is different in form — the final exposure is pure dialogue, not a card duel — but it is part of the same design language. The game sets up unfair situations and then circles back once your character and the narrative are strong enough to turn the tables.

Quick FAQ for where winds meet expose the scammer
| Question | Answer |
|---|---|
| When can you expose the Kaifeng restaurant scammer? | During Chapter 2’s Reunion sequence, once you reach Granny Turtle’s house in Kaifeng. |
| What do you pick in dialogue? | Follow her outside, then repeatedly choose lines that call out the restaurant setup and demand the truth. |
| Can you get your money or wine back? | No. The game treats that loss as permanent; the reward is narrative resolution, not a refund. |
| Do you need specific items? | No items are required. The reveal is driven entirely by story progress and your dialogue choices. |
| Does exposing her change major story branches? | It does not alter endings, but it unlocks extra dialogue and shifts her into an ally role later on. |
The scammer storyline works because it leans into frustration first and catharsis later. There is no way to brute-force the initial encounter; the game wants you to feel the sting. When the Reunion quest finally gives you space to push back — with Wind Sense reinforcing what you already suspect and the log recording her confession — the payoff lands. If you are stuck waiting for your moment, the path is simple: reach Granny Turtle’s house, follow her outside, and never let the conversation off the hook.